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Sunday, 27 July 2008

Medical Staff in Kiev Was Forced To Attend Events Presided Over By Bartholomew

(Left): What the Church teaches. (Right): What Yushchenko, Denisenko, and Kudryakov teach. You know the real thing! So do the folks in Kiev! God deliver them from such suffering. It is beyond words. 

Kiev, 27 July 2008 (Interfax):

Managers at Kiev hospitals and polyclinics forced staff to compulsorily attend festive events in the centre of Kiev conducted by Patriarch Bartholomew of Istanbul, an Interfax-Religion correspondent reported. A nurse from one of the polyclinics met with journalists at the Kievo-Pecherskogo Lavra and complained that management had forced all her colleagues to attend the events that Bartholomew presided over, including the wreath-laying ceremony at the monument to St Olga. In this case, everyone was forced to make written statements that they would attend. The same was practised at all other medical establishments in Kiev, the woman said. Asked what the staff’s reaction was, she said, “Negative, of course”, adding, “The weather is excellent proof of that. It was raining when Bartholomew was conducting a service. Now, our Patriarch (Aleksei II of Moscow and all Russia: Interfax) has arrived and the sun is shining brightly!” she said. The woman declined to give her name or the outpatient clinic she works at, saying she feared punishment from the managers. Large posters showing Patriarch Bartholomew, alone or with Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko, can be seen everywhere in Kiev. Pictures of Patriarch Aleksei are rarely seen.

Interfax-Religion

http://www.interfax-religion.ru/?act=news&div=25725 (in Russian)

Editor’s Note:

Democracy in action! Well… what I say is simple. People came freely to see Patriarch Aleksei, and they had to be coerced and forced to see Bart. God willing, Yushchenko is not long for this world, politically, of course. After seventeen years of huffing and puffing, the pseudo-state of the Ukraine is moribund, lacking in vision, and increasingly poor. The fact that bread coupons are going to be issued this fall shows the utter bankruptcy of it all. People know it. It is time for action. The Ukrainian people do not deserve to suffer like this; they need to be part of the rodina yet again. May that day come soon. 

Police Barred Many Canonical Orthodox from Attending the Patriarchal Liturgy in Kiev

Kiev, 27 July 2008 (Interfax):

A line of police and OMON from Kiev on Sunday blocked the way to the Vladimirskaya Hill site near the St Vladimir monument in Kiev, where Patriarch Aleksei II of Moscow and all Russia served the Divine Liturgy. Police formed a line along the site perimeter early on Sunday, blocking access to believers to the liturgy at 08.00, thus, forcing people to pray on the streets in front of the police barricades, an Interfax-Religion correspondent reported. Many knelt on the street during the liturgy and some held posters saying, “No to Autocephaly!” The situation caused indignation and protest in the crowd. “That we, canonical Orthodox believers, weren’t allowed to attend the service indicates it was a premeditated action. We came to see our Patriarch. The Patriarch came here for our sake, for our holiday. This is our homeland, it’s filled with our prayers, so, we’re not just visitors here”, one of the women barred from the liturgy told Interfax-Religion.

Spokesmen for the police, meanwhile, claimed their action was part of the security measures taken. The square near the monument was filled by too many people, it was a large crowd, and they said that new arrivals would only lead to a crush. However, an Interfax-Religion correspondent reported that there was much vacant space near the platform where the service was served, even though several thousand people had gathered. Many people complained to journalists that they had to clamber up the steep slopes of the Vladimirskaya Hill to order to reach the site of the liturgy, bypassing the police barriers.

Interfax-Religion

http://www.interfax-religion.ru/?act=news&div=25727 (in Russian)

Editor’s Note:

It’s time for all decent people to expose Yushchenko for the fraud that he is! Eat yer spinach and rumble!

This has got my blood boilin’. I’m spoiling for a scrap! To think that Yushchenko and his Uniate buddies kept old babas away from the liturgy by using the OMON! Swingin’ clubs at babas! How low can you go? WHAT FILTH! I am fit to be tied, and this is “it’s all I can stands and I can’t stands no more”, as Popeye put it. Where’s the spinach?

Orthodox Leader Says ‘No’ To Ukrainian Split

Russia and Ukraine: Together Forever!

The most senior figure (sic) in the Eastern Orthodox Church, Patriarch Bartholomew of (Istanbul), refused to give his blessing for the creation of a National Church in Ukraine. He said unity was “more important than any political aims”. The statement was made in Kiev at celebrations for the 1,020th anniversary of the founding of the Russian Orthodox Church. Patriarch Aleksei II of Moscow and all Russia also arrived in Kiev to join the festivities. It is his first visit to Ukraine in eleven years. Thousands of believers gathered on the streets of the Ukrainian capital to greet the First Hierarch of the MP. Speaking at the Kievo-Pecherskogo Lavra, he said, “We need to treasure the great gift of unity which we have. We must cherish the unity within our Slavic brotherhood. We are here so that unity and peace can be among us”.

Earlier on Saturday, Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko asked Patriarch Bartholomew to bless the establishment of a unified local Orthodox Church. “I believe a national local church will appear in the Ukraine. I ask, Your Holiness, for your blessing, for the truth, for hope and for our country, the Ukraine”, he said. Patriarch Bartholomew rejected the plea, “Concern about the protection of church unity is our responsibility, it’s more important than any political aims. If we continue with matters not related to the spirit of the Church, it will corrupt the power of Baptism to integrate believers and lead to a separation”.

Despite heavy rain, thousands attended a ceremony on the square in front of the St Sofia Cathedral in Kiev. However, the dispute between the Russian and Ukrainian (sic) churches cast a shadow over events. The row is centred on a Ukrainian move to unite the three branches (sic) of the Orthodox Church in the country and to break free from the control of the Moscow Metropolitan (sic). As things stand, the Ukrainian church is an affiliate of Moscow (sic).

Door of the Assumption Cathedral of the Kievo-Pecherskogo Lavra in Kiev, the oldest Russian monastery, residence of Metropolitan Vladimir Sabodan of Kiev and all the Ukraine, the only canonical primate in the Ukraine, a true hero and confessor who stands against Yushchenko’s schism

Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko is backing the proposed split, leading to accusations that the religious dispute is being driven by pro-Western politicians. Bishop Evstraty, a representative for the self-proclaimed “Patriarchate of Kiev”, told RT that the Ukrainian Church (sic) had met all the conditions for independence, but that Moscow had refused to set it free (sic). “Our faith came from Constantinople 1,020 years ago, we are looking there for acceptance”, he said. However, Fr Longin, a representative of the MP in Kiev, said any division would be a disaster for the Orthodox Church worldwide. “A canonical split of churches in Ukraine would mean a split in all of Orthodoxy, a tragedy that would weaken Orthodox Christianity in the eyes of the world”, he said.

The Orthodox community in the Ukraine remains divided on the issue. The MP, on the other hand, is strongly opposed to a split. Archpriest Vsevolod Chaplin, a spokesman for MP, believes any outside influence on the church is destructive. “For 15 years some politicians in the Ukraine have been trying to manipulate religion for political purposes. Sometimes they say very clearly that they need a national church”, he said. “The Church can never be national. The church is always universal. It’s above any ethnic, political, or social division. Political interference into the life of the Church, into difficult centuries-long processes such as those underway in the Ukraine is destructive”, he added. 

Many ordinary believers are bemused by the dispute. The faithful see no difference between the branches as they pray to the same saints and hold the same holidays on the same dates, the only thing that separates them is politics.

The importance of Kiev 

Kiev remains the cradle of Russian Christianity. Prince Vladimir converted to Christianity as a means to unify the competing tribes of the time. Bringing it from Constantinople, he forced thousands into the Dnepr River to denounce their pagan beliefs and recognise Christ. ‘Kievan Rus’ thrived and expanded under Christianity, becoming one of Europe’s most powerful states. Nowadays, Kiev is no longer the capital of an empire, the centre of Orthodoxy has moved to Moscow.

27 July 2008

Russia Today

http://russiatoday.ru/features/news/28062 (in English)

Editor’s Note:

Motherland Monument in Kiev in honour of the fallen of the 2nd Great Patriotic War

The above is written either by an expat or a young Russian with some education in the US. We cannot assume that just because someone is Russian, they are going to be patriotic and stand for Orthodox civilisation against Western hedonism and anything-goes “democracy”. Of course, there are sell-outs, as there are in all groups. However, this has the feel of an expat piece, for even a sell-out would have a better feel for the church situation.

That being said, it has its uses. Bart has lost, at least for now, at least for today. Hey, Asia News, do you want fries with that order of crow supreme? Do you want to supersize it? Your buddy Bart was forced to retract EVERYTHING, in public, no less. Of course, one can’t celebrate and break out the bottles until the weasel is back in Istanbul where he belongs. Nevertheless, it confirms, for even the slow learners, that the de facto head of world Orthodoxy is Patriarch Aleksei. Bartholomew sits in the kiddy-seat, and he has been reminded of that forcefully, no doubt.

It also shows the Ukie/Galician/Uniate nationalist fanatics for what they are… empty windbags with no popular support (save in very loud diaspora circles, I won’t hear the end of that, I’ll warrant!). Reflect on the following. The government refuses to see to it the legitimate UAOC (MP) receives back the church buildings seized by schismatics and Uniates. Yushchenko gives media time and attention to the schismatics and Uniates, but not to the real church (the Ukrainian government has barred the legit church from all public media for years). There is much pressure on the part of pro-Western “nationalist” politicians to force clerics of the legitimate church into schism or apostasy (that is, go Uniate). Priests have been killed for refusing to follow extreme “nationalists” (don’t forget that Yushchenko’s hero Shukhevich murdered Metropolitan Aleksei Gromadsky of Kiev for refusing to deny Christ’s Church).

Kermit the Frog: a being totally without pretense or guile. He is a good metaphor for the faithful people of the Ukraine and their archpastor Metropolitan Vladimir. They shall defeat the khokhol Yushchenko and his western backers not with guns or swords, but with the TRUTH that sets us FREE.

In short, it ain’t easy bein’ green in the Ukraine! You have a MUCH easier time of it if you follow Yushchenko and spit on Christ’s Church. The fact that 85 percent of the faithful remain true to Christ is amazing, and deserves our praise and admiration. So, if you hear fanatics such as “Fr Nicholas”, do not give them the time of day; do not give them a forum. Of course, they are going to call you every name in the book, cast aspersions on your Christianity, and trot out every piece of Galician Uniate propaganda under the sun. I have dealt with such for YEARS. It’s rather wearisome, as they come out with nothing new, let me assure you. I stand tall, and I shall not be bullied, and neither should you.

God willing, everything shall continue quietly. However, I shall not rest easy until His Holiness is out of the Ukraine. Yushchenko is unstable, and his Galician Uniate minions are even worse. They have murdered churchmen in the past with no compunction or pity. Such khokhols must be eradicated wherever they are found, for they believe in murder and terror as policy. They are nothing but a western al Qaeda. Only a minority of the enemies of civilisation wear turbans, and I would say that al Qaeda is less dangerous than these sorts, for they hide under a “western” veneer…

A Postscript concerning Andrei Zolotov Jr:

Many western journalists have been mindlessly repeating remarks made by one Andrei Zolotov Jr concerning the “inevitability” of a Ukrainian church on the internet. I know nothing of Mr Zolotov, but the usage “Andrei Zolotov Jr” is profoundly un-Russian. We would say Andrei Andreyevich Zolotov. This means that he is either from the diaspora (no sin) or aping American ways (not so good). He has no official position, and Russian friends inform me that he is a reliable spouter of Western opinion. So, if you hear talk of “the inevitability of a Ukrainian church”, know that it comes from a source hostile to the church and over-friendly to the west. 

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