Voices from Russia

Thursday, 30 October 2014

Uniate Chieftain Shevchuk Sez “UPTs/MP is the Only Canonical Orthodox Church in the Ukraine”

01 This Ship is Sinking

Is Shevchuk bolting the junta? Is he making his peace with a future pro-Russian reality? It’s a possibility… but we’d have to see developments to be sure, no? The Uniates DO speak with forked tongue…

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S Yu Shevchuk, the head of the UGKTs, said on-air on American radio station SiriusXM, speaking with Archbishop Timothy Dolan of New York, the head of the US Conference of Catholic Bishops, “Today, there’s no mystery that the only canonical Orthodox Church in the Ukraine, the only one in full communion with world Orthodoxy, is the UPTs/MP. Other Orthodox groups separated from the UPTs/MP after Ukrainian independence at different times for various reasons, but the other Orthodox Churches consider them uncanonical. For us as Eastern Catholics, these divisions in Ukrainian Orthodoxy are painful, but we respect the canons and internal order of the Orthodox side. On our part, we never attempted to interfere in the internal life of the Orthodox Church; we never took part in the debates about its canonical legitimacy, nor did we incite any group to initiate a schism. You can’t solve existing problems with new schisms, divisions, or amalgamations”. He hoped that these schisms would end in the near future, noting, “We interact with the ‘Kiev Patriarchate’ as a part of the ‘All-Ukrainian Council of Churches and Religious Organisations’. Therefore, I’d say that these relations are more in the realm of public relations, not inter-church contacts. I have deep respect for the Russian people and the MP. In fact, over half the Maidan participants were Russian-speakers and members of the UPTs/MP”.

Earlier, the MP repeatedly criticised the UGKTs for its involvement in politics and for its support of Ukrainian schismatical groups. In particular, recently, Metropolitan Ilarion Alfeyev of Volokolamsk, head of the MP Synodal Department for External Church Relations (OVTsS), spoke at the Vatican during the General Assembly of the Synod of Catholic Bishops. He appealed to the UGKTs delegation, “You should renounce all political statements and end all visible forms of support of the schism, as well as to put a stop to calls to create ‘a single Local Ukrainian Church’. From the beginning, unfortunately, the conflict in the Ukraine, which has already taken thousands of lives, had a religious dimension. In this, the UGKTs played a significant role in its origin and development. From the very first days of the conflict, the Greek Catholics unequivocally stood for only one side of the conflict. Contrary to the respect for canonical norms prevailing in relations between Catholics and the Orthodox Church, the Greek Catholics entered into active collaboration with Orthodox schismatics”.

21 October 2014

Interfax-Religion

www.interfax-religion.ru/?act=news&div=56815

Editor:

This is fascinating. If Shevchuk is on the up-and-square (a rather iffy proposition, I’d say, but let’s take it as is, for now), it means that the UGKTs is backing away from its support of Orthodox schismatical groups. Indeed, it appears that Shevchuk is saying that the UGKTs recognises only the UPTs/MP… that it wants NOTHING to do with Ukrainian nationalist schismatical groups. Is this a sign that the Uniate junta is sinking and that Shevchuk wants to conform himself to a new reality? Of course, it could just be bullshit to blow smoke into our eyes. The Uniates have lied all too often in the past… the Uniates DID bless the SS collaborators and the UPA terrorists, after all. We’ll have to see what happens.

Interesting… IF true…

BMD

Wednesday, 29 October 2014

29 October 2014. Here’s the “One Thing Needful”

00 Glittersnipe.com. Get Your Shit Together. 2013

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We must start with organising the house from within. That’s our responsibility. The most important thing is that the Church, as an institution, serves the community.

Tawadros Sulaymān

Pope and Patriarch of Alexandria and all Africa

Coptic Orthodox Church              

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Our Russian Orthodox Church should focus on the “one thing needful”… putting our house into order before we even say anything to anyone else. Our most crying need is to unite our fractious body. The OCA, ROCOR, and MP/USA and Canada are one sociological whole. Why do we tolerate such disunity? The Cold War is over. We should put all minor issues to the side. Better heads than mine have told me that the Calendar issue is something best left to the healing hand of time. However, there’s one thing that many Great Russians haven’t faced… their unconscious assumption that their ways are the only ones in the Church. I wrote a friend:

It’s time for Russian Orthodox people here in the diaspora to start seriously talking unity… it’s the only way that we’ll keep the feral in check. I’ll be blunt… I think that there’d be a “Rump OCA” after such a union… but the healthy parts would “come home”. It’s TIME… it’s time to overlook minor disagreements… we NEED to be together… that’s the lesson of the Ukrainian Civil War… the Ukie nutters have unity, ergo their voice is heard. We’re shunted to the side… it’s our own fault!

They replied:

You’re aware that Great Russian chauvinism is behind our disunity? They disdain Carpatho-Russians, Byelorussians, and Russophile Ukrainians and THAT has been the cause of our disunity. “We’re ‘HIGH Russians’ and You People are ‘Low Russians’. You will do as WE say”. UGH. Can you fight THAT?

I shot back:

Veliki Rus is the core of Holy Rus, but it isn’t the only part… Great Russia is the largest partner at table, but not the only one. God willing, “High Russians” like me can help move things right…

My interlocutor wished me well, and admired my lack of chauvinism. However, we all need to look at our attitudes. Are we furthering “organising the house from within?” If not, the Church can’t serve the community; it lacks any real purpose. It then becomes a pseudo-temple… an abomination. We shouldn’t be talking about ecumenical contacts and missionary work when we can’t even set our own rooms to rights. We have work to do…

Can these dry bones live? It IS up to us!

BMD

Coptic Pope and Patriarch Tawadros Arrives in Moscow

00 Pope and Patriarch Tawadros in Moscow. 29.10.14

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His Holiness Pope and Patriarch Tawadros Sulaymān, 118th Pope of Alexandria and Patriarch of all Africa of the Holy Apostolic See of Saint Mark, accompanied by a patriarchal delegation, arrived in Russia on 28 October 2014 ahead of a historic visit. HH Pope Tawadros will visit His Holiness Patriarch Kirill Gundyaev of Moscow and all the Russias on 29 October 2014, marking 26 years since the visit of the previous Pope of Alexandria, His Holiness the late Pope Shenouda who participated in the celebration of the Millennium of the Christianisation of Russia and the baptism of St Vladimir. His Holiness was met at Moscow’s Domodedovo airport by Metropolitan Ilarion Alfeyev of Volokolamsk, Chairman of the MP Synodal Department for External Church Relations in Moscow and His Excellency Dr Mahmoud El-Badry, Ambassador of the Arab Republic of Egypt to the Russian Federation, as well as Their Graces Bishop Kyrillos of Milan, Papal Exarch in Europe, and Bishop Angaelos, General Bishop of the Coptic Orthodox Church in the UK. a delegation comprising Metropolitan Bishoy of Damietta and Their Graces: Bishop Raphael, General Secretary of the Holy Synod of the Coptic Orthodox Church and Bishop Serapion of Los Angeles and Papal secretary Father Angelos Ishak and official spokesman of the Coptic Orthodox Church, Fr Boules Haleem accompanied Pope Tawadros.

From Moscow, Bishop Angaelos said:

“This fraternal visit is important because it marks the first visit of a Coptic Pope to Russia in 26 years and marks and demonstrates the depth of relationship between our two Churches and the many commonalities we share in our heritage and experience”. There’ll be a reception for Pope Tawadros at the Egyptian Embassy on the evening of 28 October 2014, and he’ll undertake various official visits and pastoral engagements throughout the duration of his stay.

28 October 2014

The Coptic Orthodox Church Centre UK

http://copticcentre.blogspot.com/2014/10/press-release-his-holiness-pope.html

click here and here for the patriarchia.ru coverage

Editor:

I asked a friend at the Centre why HH didn’t meet Pope Tawadros. He said:

That’s ticklish. We’re not in communion, and if His Holiness were to meet Pope Tawadros at the airport, it’d imply that there was something important up regarding the solving of our problems. Happily, Pope Tawadros is meeting His Holiness, and we plan to cover it fully on patriarchia.ru. He’ll attend services, but he won’t serve. That’s sad… but that’s what the circumstances dictate. It’s a happy event.

In short, HH is feeling his oats and showing everyone (especially, Bart) that HE and NOT Bart is the Big Kahuna of the Orthodox World.

BMD

29 October 2014. Christian Iraq is No More… Do You Want to Vote for the Republicans Who Brought That On?

00 christ or rush. 29.10.14

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The ancient Christian communities of Iraq are no more… that’s the direct result of Bush’s and Cheney’s warmongering in 2003. Today, the GOP rattles its rusty sabre yet again… if its earlier aggression led directly to the present predicament of Iraqi Christians, one shudders to think what the results of their latest warmongering would be. If you’re an Orthodox Christian and you vote for Republicans, you thrust a knife full-force into the backs of your co-religionists in the Middle East and in the Ukraine. There’s no other way of putting it. You spit on the Lord Christ through the blasphemous Republican assault on the Orthodox peoples of the Middle East and the Ukraine. Why? Why are you helping those who hate our Faith, who hate our People, and who hate our Civilisation? They want to rape our ancestral homelands in the Middle East and Eastern Europe for the sake of Filthy Lucre. They want to replace our ancient Belief and Worldview with their Me First-Winner Take All cacodoxy.

You DO have a choice… Christ or Rush Limbaugh… the GOP or the Holy Church… Almighty God or the Almighty Dollar. Do choose carefully… the fate of your immortal soul IS at stake.

BMD

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