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On Tuesday, US Secretary of State John Kerry said that Russia and the USA would set up an international conference on Syria by the end of this month. He’s optimistic that it’d involve both the Syrian government and opposition forces. At a meeting with Minister of Foreign Affairs Sergei Lavrov, Kerry said that the conference would aim at facilitating a solution to the Syrian crisis through political dialogue. Lavrov added that the Syrian government assured Russia that it’s ready to participate in the conference, saying, “But, of course, so far, these are just words that have yet to be transformed into actions”. He went to say that the Syrian opposition hasn’t commented on the proposal. So far, opponents of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad have refused to sit down for talks with the régime in the past, saying that Assad’s removal is a non-negotiable issue. Lavrov pointed up that the conference would be a follow-up to last year’s international meeting in Genève that drafted a peace roadmap for Syria.
The communiqué passed in Genève by the UN Action Group on Syria, which includes Syria’s neighbours and the permanent members of the UN Security Council, proposed to start with the creation of a transitional government drawn both from the opposition and Assad’s administration. Both Kerry and Lavrov stressed that Russia and the USA support the Genève roadmap, seeing political dialogue as the only solution for Syria. Kerry said that the alternative is increasing violence, a humanitarian crisis, and the country’s disintegration.
Moscow and Washington have clashed over Syria in the past; the USA put the responsibility for the civil war on Assad’s régime, whilst Russia insisted that the opposition should share the blame for the conflict. Russia blocked several UN Security Council resolutions on Syria, saying that they were biased in favour of the opposition. The USA supported the Syrian opposition, providing the motley coalition of forces (which includes many radical Islamists) with non-lethal military equipment. Recently, a bill filed with the US Senate proposed the supply of weapons to the Syrian insurgents. Kerry said the bill’s fate depended on the American inquiry in progress into reports that the rebels used chemical weapons, but added the matter may become a moot point if the government and the opposition begin dialogue. More than 70,000 have died in the two-year-long present conflict in Syria, according to the latest UN estimates.
8 May 2013
RIA-Novosti
http://en.rian.ru/world/20130508/181018883/Russia-US-Want-Talks-Between-Syrian-Govt-Opposition.html
Editor’s Note:
Let’s not put too fine a face on this. The USA has woken up to the fact that Islamist radicals would benefit from the toppling of Assad. Besides that, Russia and China are adamant… NO MORE BOMBS! To put the kybosh on the idea of “intervention”, it’s unaffordable (there ain’t nuttin’ in Motha Hubbard’s cupboard, kids… Bush wasted it all on the adventures in Iraq and Afghanistan) and it’d destabilise the entire region (the Gulf States are most jittery on that score, and they’re American allies). Look carefully at:
Recently, a bill filed with the US Senate proposed the supply of weapons to the Syrian insurgents. Kerry said the bill’s fate depended on the American inquiry in progress into reports that the rebels used chemical weapons, but added the matter may become a moot point if the government and the opposition begin dialogue.
That is, Kerry’s given the US government a face-saving fig-leaf. The opposition will refuse to sit down with Assad… then, the USA will piously (and hypocritically) withdraw its former offer of arms. “They won’t sit down for peace talks… they’re terrorists intent on mayhem”. Let’s not be coy, the Boston bombing incident makes it politically impossible for any American régime to cooperate with any group that even looks like it might have Islamic militants within it. Any road, most of Obama’s rhetoric on Syria was election-year hogwash, not meant to be taken seriously by mature adults. Reflect on this… Wet Willy would’ve gotten the USA involved in a very sticky wicket just to placate the Religious Right troglodytes in the GOP. God IS in His Heaven… the Old Master does it again (just like when he defused the claptrap over Iran)… hey, anybody who still chain-smokes, backs Spartak, plays the guitar, goes white-water rafting, and cusses when he wants to can’t be all bad.
BMD



Lavrov sez Gay Propaganda Ban “Not Discrimination”
Tags: Catherine Ashton, diplomacy, diplomatic relations, EU, European Union, Frans Timmerman, Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Ministry of Foreign Affairs (Russian), political commentary, politics, Russia, Russian, Sergei Lavrov
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On Tuesday, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that the ban on “gay propaganda” amongst minors, currently under review in the RF Gosduma, doesn’t infringe on human rights… unlike “gay propaganda” itself, saying, “We’re not discriminating against anyone, we just don’t want reverse discrimination, when one group of citizens gets the right to aggressively impose their values, unsupported by most of the population, especially on children”. He spoke after his Dutch counterpart Frans Timmermans urged the lower chamber of the RF Federal Assembly, the RF Gosduma, to drop the controversial bill on gay propaganda because it might violate international agreements on human rights. Lavrov replied, speaking at a press conference after a meeting with Timmermans, “We don’t have a single global or pan-European obligation to allow gay propaganda”. He pointed up that Russia fulfilled all of its humanitarian obligations regarding same-sex relations when it decriminalised male homosexual contact in 1993. Lavrov noted that instead of campaigning for Russian gays, the EU should deal with flagrant rights violations on its own turf, most notably the case regarding “non-citizens” in Estonia and Latvia, who were denied citizenship after these countries declared independence from the USSR.
The Gosduma voted 388 to one in support of the “gay propaganda” ban in the first of three required readings in late January. Several dozen opponents and supporters of the bill marked the occasion with violent clashes outside the Gosduma building in central Moscow. EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton criticised the bill after the first reading, saying it could infringe human rights. Russian lawmakers are currently working on a legal definition of “gay propaganda” ahead of the crucial second reading, which wouldn’t take place before late May. The ban in its current form envisages fines of 4,000 to 500,000 roubles (130 to 16,290 USD. 100 to 12,480 Euros. 85 to 10,750 UK Pounds) for individuals and organisations trying to convince minors of the benefits of same-sex relations.
Eleven of 83 Russian oblast-level entities installed similar bans since 2006; many of them also cover bisexual and transsexual relations, which aren’t part of the federal bill. The list of entities includes St Petersburg, where conservative activists unsuccessfully sued pop star Madonna last year for “gay propaganda” over her speaking out in support of the city’s gays during a show in August. A poll by VTsIOM last April showed that 94 percent of Russians never encountered gay propaganda, but 86 percent support a ban on it. The nationwide poll covered 1,600 respondents and had a margin of error of 3.4 percentage points. Russian authorities have never sanctioned a gay pride rally, although LGBT activists have applied for permits in Moscow since 2006. Last May, the St Petersburg authorities permitted a rally against homophobia, but dozens of masked thugs, all of whom evaded arrest, attacked its participants.
26 February 2013
RIA-Novosti
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20130226/179698723/Gay-Propaganda-Ban-Not-Discrimination–Russian-FM.html
Editor’s Note:
Sergei Viktorovich speaks the plain truth. Russia isn’t recriminalising homosexuality… the bill has no provisions for imprisonment. The Church isn’t calling for the criminalisation of homosexuality, either. As HH said, “The Church respects all human decisions, including those of sexual orientation”. What the Church and state ARE calling for is a criminalisation of homosexual propaganda, strictly-defined as the suborning or influencing of minors. Note well that the St Petersburg lawsuit against Madonna failed. That’s because it failed the test of meeting the law’s definition. You simply can’t harass gays with a charge of “homosexual propaganda”; you have to bring evidence that they actually tried to influence a minor child.
Therefore, disregard the caterwauls that you hear from the konvertsy regarding homosexuality and the Church. They’re ignorant and they don’t speak the Church’s mind nor express its dogmatic theology (their “view” is made up of equal parts of fantasy, half-digested theologumenae, and sectarian notions). Besides which, they’re fanatics of the worst sort. Fr Andrew Phillips spoke well on that topic here. He truly said:
That truly describes James Paffhausen, Rod Dreher, the Monomakhos lot, and the HOOMie cultists, none of whom are truly Orthodox in their heart-of-hearts. That’s why they want a crusade against gays. By the way, a “crusade” is profoundly un-Orthodox… haven’t they learnt that? Obviously, not… it does take all kinds, doesn’t it? Pass me the jug…
BMD