
You know what to do… vote for the President… or we’ll get the world of The Handmaid’s Tale… it’s our choice…
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Read this. I’ll keep it simple and sweet… had Fr Aleksei merely commented on homosexuals, without mentioning President Obama, it’d be an acceptable part of the debate on a moral question. NOT “correct”… NOT “what the Church teaches”… but “acceptable”. He was definitely trying to influence people to vote against President Obama and to vote for Wafflin’ Willy. President Obama’s stance is MUCH more nuanced than what this rightwing jabronie trumpets in his post. To be blunt, the pastoral situation that he describes has been in existence for at least fifty years in the larger urban centres, and doesn’t exist yet in most rural areas, even now. It is NOT the creation of Barack Obama, NOT AT ALL.
In short, Rev Chumakov attacks the President for no good reason, which is impermissible in a cleric. Note well that he does NOT tell you that President Obama’s opponents want to shred the social safety net, turn over more of our society’s resources to the already-bloated fat-cats, and wage endless and pointless wars in foreign parts for their profit and benefit (should I mention Wafflin’ Willy’s dodging of the draft?). That being said, no Orthodox cleric is allowed to attack the civil authority as he did. Orthodox priests should stay out of politics… His Holiness has said that many times. Had he only mentioned the homosexual issue, it’d been within the acceptable limits of debate in the Church (not correct, not Churchly… but “acceptable”)… by mentioning the President, and by blaming the problem on the President, it was an impermissible politicising of a moral issue.
There’s a silver lining in this… such lying on the part of the rightwingers means that they’re scared of the President winning re-election. Come November, you DO have a choice. Vote for the President… it’ll be a vote for society that’s more just than that proposed by his greedster opponents. Don’t argue with rightwing scummers like the Rev Chumakov… all it’ll do is frustrate you and make you do something silly… mark that ballot in November. Don’t be misled by self-interested priestcraft…
Metropolitan Hilarion should make this jabronie rewrite this with all allusions to the President and other political figures and situations dropped. Now, that’s Christian… NO cleric is allowed to publicly state a political preference… that’s our special calling as lay people. Priests are figures of unity in Christ, not of partisan divisiveness… and our hierarchs should see to it that all priests follow that. I think that’s fair. This undisguised plug for the Republican Party should be taken off the ROCOR website… the sooner, the better.
Barbara-Marie Drezhlo
Monday 28 May 2012
Albany NY
A Note from Abroad:
A Kitchen Cabinet member said:
He stated the Church’s truth, but you’re right. Had he said, “Politicians from both Parties…” or even “President Obama along with politicians from both Parties…”, but he didn’t. He focused on Obama. Canada legalised gay marriage several years back. Did Father say anything then? Speak the Gospel, but without gainsaying or respecting persons.
I agree wholeheartedly. That’s why this is so nasty and obscene. Stick to the moral issue and leave the politics to us, Father. That says it all…
BMD
Fr Aleksei Chumakov’s Statement on President Obama’s “Support” of Homosexuals is Impermissible Rightwing Filth and Shames Christ’s Church
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You know what to do… vote for the President… or we’ll get the world of The Handmaid’s Tale… it’s our choice…
______________________________
Read this. I’ll keep it simple and sweet… had Fr Aleksei merely commented on homosexuals, without mentioning President Obama, it’d be an acceptable part of the debate on a moral question. NOT “correct”… NOT “what the Church teaches”… but “acceptable”. He was definitely trying to influence people to vote against President Obama and to vote for Wafflin’ Willy. President Obama’s stance is MUCH more nuanced than what this rightwing jabronie trumpets in his post. To be blunt, the pastoral situation that he describes has been in existence for at least fifty years in the larger urban centres, and doesn’t exist yet in most rural areas, even now. It is NOT the creation of Barack Obama, NOT AT ALL.
In short, Rev Chumakov attacks the President for no good reason, which is impermissible in a cleric. Note well that he does NOT tell you that President Obama’s opponents want to shred the social safety net, turn over more of our society’s resources to the already-bloated fat-cats, and wage endless and pointless wars in foreign parts for their profit and benefit (should I mention Wafflin’ Willy’s dodging of the draft?). That being said, no Orthodox cleric is allowed to attack the civil authority as he did. Orthodox priests should stay out of politics… His Holiness has said that many times. Had he only mentioned the homosexual issue, it’d been within the acceptable limits of debate in the Church (not correct, not Churchly… but “acceptable”)… by mentioning the President, and by blaming the problem on the President, it was an impermissible politicising of a moral issue.
There’s a silver lining in this… such lying on the part of the rightwingers means that they’re scared of the President winning re-election. Come November, you DO have a choice. Vote for the President… it’ll be a vote for society that’s more just than that proposed by his greedster opponents. Don’t argue with rightwing scummers like the Rev Chumakov… all it’ll do is frustrate you and make you do something silly… mark that ballot in November. Don’t be misled by self-interested priestcraft…
Metropolitan Hilarion should make this jabronie rewrite this with all allusions to the President and other political figures and situations dropped. Now, that’s Christian… NO cleric is allowed to publicly state a political preference… that’s our special calling as lay people. Priests are figures of unity in Christ, not of partisan divisiveness… and our hierarchs should see to it that all priests follow that. I think that’s fair. This undisguised plug for the Republican Party should be taken off the ROCOR website… the sooner, the better.
Monday 28 May 2012
Albany NY
A Note from Abroad:
A Kitchen Cabinet member said:
I agree wholeheartedly. That’s why this is so nasty and obscene. Stick to the moral issue and leave the politics to us, Father. That says it all…
BMD