A good definition of “traitor” is “one who aids the enemies of one’s motherland”. That is, all those who aid Russophobic agencies, projects, and groups are traitors, no two ways about it. Quite often, “dishonesty” walks together with “treason“. An important question is, “Are those duped into treason traitors?” Indeed, can one be “duped” into treason? In an earlier post, I used strong language about Basil Rodzianko. I admit that I did so to provoke comment… for he was a traitor against his Russian motherland in objective terms. It did provoke the comment that I wanted… I apologise as my earlier language was overly harsh… but it was the only way to elicit the comment that I wanted from my Cabinet… and more than one responded to it.
Basil Rodzianko aided the CIA by working as a propagandist for Radio Liberty, the lying American distortion machine directed at the USSR. Was he aware what he was doing? After all, more than one of my respondents said that he wasn’t the most good-sense person out there (one told me, “He was so scatterbrained that his Matushka had to keep him out of the rain”)… he wasn’t a good judge of character at all. Yet, he committed treason against the motherland by aiding the CIA. That’s a fact that no one can deny. Besides that, his extended family were all Hard Right fanatics of the worst-possible sort. To top it all, he aided the career of Victor Potapov, one of the most monstrous figures in our contemporary Church in the diaspora (more than one has told me that he gave neoliberal pigs like John Herbst entry into ROCOR circles). His legacy is spotted… but was he aware of what he’d done? If one is honest, he wasn’t innocent, but he wasn’t guilty, if you know what I’m driving at. Who was guilty, if he wasn’t?
The Vlasovtsy bedevilled our Church here since their arrival starting in 1948. Very quickly, they took over the ROCOR, which was smarting from the Metropolia’s defection after the notorious Cleveland Sobor of 1946. They were anti-communists before they were Christians… there were only a few exceptions such as Ioann Maximovich, and he faced continual opposition from Hard Right factions in the Church. They made alliances with the most retrograde of American rightwing fringe elements and they gladly accepted Langley‘s money (Lebedeff admitted as much). Unfortunately, their lies infected the Church, we aren’t free of them, and we won’t be until we bow in repentance before the entire Church and admit our weaselly treachery as a group.
We owe repentance for the wrongheaded “doctrine” of Sergianism… which was evil in the extreme. Sergei Stagorodsky suffered imprisonment TWICE for confessing Christ… TWICE. None of his detractors suffered anything… indeed, they issued their complaints from the safety of exile. Ergo, we owe repentance for slandering good Christian people who saved what they could in the midst of a firestorm. They deserve our praise… and their detractors deserve our condemnation! We need to shut up those like Victor Potapov, and that’s that. We owe repentance for lying about a non-existent “catacomb Church”. Jordanville was particularly vociferous about it. Lies are lies, and when institutions lie on a massive scale, as the ROCOR did to please its Western paymasters, they owe repentance and reparation to their victims. Note well that the MP didn’t demand such, although by simple justice the ROCOR owed it such, and on a massive scale. It owes repentance for sheltering Nazi collaborators… that makes the Church an accomplice in their crimes, no doubt about it.
You see, the MP NEVER owed anyone any “repentance”… and we must disregard ROCOR lies to the contrary. The MP stood for the motherland in the VOV, whilst the ROCOR (all too often) stood for nasty collaborators of the worst sort. Who owes repentance? Yes, WHO owes repentance? Was it the ones who endured persecution and, yet, forgave their persecutors (as good Christians should), or, was it the ones who issued bilious hatred because of their all-consuming opposition to communism? For instance, the ROCOR never issued a public apology for stabbing the motherland in the back by establishing an anti-canonical establishment in the homeland. That, in Christian terms, is far worse than anything the MP is alleged to have done.
Yet, I don’t hate the ROCOR at all. At base, many parts of it are very healthy, indeed. In fact, in future, it’ll be the basis of a united Russian Orthodox presence in the diaspora. However, before this can happen, the ROCOR must cleanse itself by repenting of its actions in the Cold War and in the period before the forcible removal of Vitaly Ustinov. Such lies are a cancer, and we must remove them root-and-branch if we’re to survive, let alone grow. I must give an “advice” to all of you… not all those who repeat the Jordanville “line” are guilty. Many priests aren’t free… they say what they must to serve their congregations. Interestingly, the rightwingers in the ROCOR are acting exactly as the old gaybisty did (truly, they were REAL “Chekists in riassas“)! Victor Potapov acts just the same as Suslov did… they’re just two sides of the same rotten coin. We have to cleanse ourselves of such… then, God will grant us revival as He’s done in the motherland.
We have to do what Joe Adamov did… “I lied to you and I’m sorry”… with no exceptions and no exculpations. That’ll cleanse us. Nothing else will do. Nothing else will remove the cancer from us. Joe Adamov proved himself a chelovek by doing what he did. Shall we do likewise? God willing, we shall… otherwise, we have no future.
Voices from Russia 
3 December 2013. Why the Vlasovtsy are so Dangerous to the Church
Tags: Christian, Christianity, Eastern Orthodox Church, Joe Adamov, Moscow Patriarchate, Orthodox, Orthodoxy, Patriarch Kirill I, Patriarch Sergei, political commentary, politics, Religion, ROCOR, Russia, Russian, Russian Orthodox Church, Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia, Sergianism, Soviet Union, USSR
Strike Back!
Unknown Artist
Soviet poster
1941-45
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Christ… Red… White… United
Uknown Artist
late Soviet poster
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Was Dead, but Came Back to Life… Was Lost, but was Found Again
Unknown Artist
Soviet poster
late 1980s
This poster meant that the communists had repented… and that there’s no further need of any more repentance… especially, not to those who supported the Nazi persecutors of the motherland…
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A good definition of “traitor” is “one who aids the enemies of one’s motherland”. That is, all those who aid Russophobic agencies, projects, and groups are traitors, no two ways about it. Quite often, “dishonesty” walks together with “treason“. An important question is, “Are those duped into treason traitors?” Indeed, can one be “duped” into treason? In an earlier post, I used strong language about Basil Rodzianko. I admit that I did so to provoke comment… for he was a traitor against his Russian motherland in objective terms. It did provoke the comment that I wanted… I apologise as my earlier language was overly harsh… but it was the only way to elicit the comment that I wanted from my Cabinet… and more than one responded to it.
Basil Rodzianko aided the CIA by working as a propagandist for Radio Liberty, the lying American distortion machine directed at the USSR. Was he aware what he was doing? After all, more than one of my respondents said that he wasn’t the most good-sense person out there (one told me, “He was so scatterbrained that his Matushka had to keep him out of the rain”)… he wasn’t a good judge of character at all. Yet, he committed treason against the motherland by aiding the CIA. That’s a fact that no one can deny. Besides that, his extended family were all Hard Right fanatics of the worst-possible sort. To top it all, he aided the career of Victor Potapov, one of the most monstrous figures in our contemporary Church in the diaspora (more than one has told me that he gave neoliberal pigs like John Herbst entry into ROCOR circles). His legacy is spotted… but was he aware of what he’d done? If one is honest, he wasn’t innocent, but he wasn’t guilty, if you know what I’m driving at. Who was guilty, if he wasn’t?
The Vlasovtsy bedevilled our Church here since their arrival starting in 1948. Very quickly, they took over the ROCOR, which was smarting from the Metropolia’s defection after the notorious Cleveland Sobor of 1946. They were anti-communists before they were Christians… there were only a few exceptions such as Ioann Maximovich, and he faced continual opposition from Hard Right factions in the Church. They made alliances with the most retrograde of American rightwing fringe elements and they gladly accepted Langley‘s money (Lebedeff admitted as much). Unfortunately, their lies infected the Church, we aren’t free of them, and we won’t be until we bow in repentance before the entire Church and admit our weaselly treachery as a group.
We owe repentance for the wrongheaded “doctrine” of Sergianism… which was evil in the extreme. Sergei Stagorodsky suffered imprisonment TWICE for confessing Christ… TWICE. None of his detractors suffered anything… indeed, they issued their complaints from the safety of exile. Ergo, we owe repentance for slandering good Christian people who saved what they could in the midst of a firestorm. They deserve our praise… and their detractors deserve our condemnation! We need to shut up those like Victor Potapov, and that’s that. We owe repentance for lying about a non-existent “catacomb Church”. Jordanville was particularly vociferous about it. Lies are lies, and when institutions lie on a massive scale, as the ROCOR did to please its Western paymasters, they owe repentance and reparation to their victims. Note well that the MP didn’t demand such, although by simple justice the ROCOR owed it such, and on a massive scale. It owes repentance for sheltering Nazi collaborators… that makes the Church an accomplice in their crimes, no doubt about it.
You see, the MP NEVER owed anyone any “repentance”… and we must disregard ROCOR lies to the contrary. The MP stood for the motherland in the VOV, whilst the ROCOR (all too often) stood for nasty collaborators of the worst sort. Who owes repentance? Yes, WHO owes repentance? Was it the ones who endured persecution and, yet, forgave their persecutors (as good Christians should), or, was it the ones who issued bilious hatred because of their all-consuming opposition to communism? For instance, the ROCOR never issued a public apology for stabbing the motherland in the back by establishing an anti-canonical establishment in the homeland. That, in Christian terms, is far worse than anything the MP is alleged to have done.
Yet, I don’t hate the ROCOR at all. At base, many parts of it are very healthy, indeed. In fact, in future, it’ll be the basis of a united Russian Orthodox presence in the diaspora. However, before this can happen, the ROCOR must cleanse itself by repenting of its actions in the Cold War and in the period before the forcible removal of Vitaly Ustinov. Such lies are a cancer, and we must remove them root-and-branch if we’re to survive, let alone grow. I must give an “advice” to all of you… not all those who repeat the Jordanville “line” are guilty. Many priests aren’t free… they say what they must to serve their congregations. Interestingly, the rightwingers in the ROCOR are acting exactly as the old gaybisty did (truly, they were REAL “Chekists in riassas“)! Victor Potapov acts just the same as Suslov did… they’re just two sides of the same rotten coin. We have to cleanse ourselves of such… then, God will grant us revival as He’s done in the motherland.
We have to do what Joe Adamov did… “I lied to you and I’m sorry”… with no exceptions and no exculpations. That’ll cleanse us. Nothing else will do. Nothing else will remove the cancer from us. Joe Adamov proved himself a chelovek by doing what he did. Shall we do likewise? God willing, we shall… otherwise, we have no future.
BMD
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