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Friday, 8 July 2016

8 July 2016. Whom Do YOU Believe on the Tollhouse Nuttery?

00 Converts “Reading Their Way Into the Kingdom” Steve Robinson


I wrote this to a friend:

The services aren’t doctrine. If it’s a choice between Rose on the one hand and Archbishop Antony Bartoshevich, Metropolitan Antony Khrapovitsky, and Metropolitan Anastassy Gribanovsky on the other… there’s no choice. Didn’t they use the same sluzhebnik? Didn’t they know it better than we do? Checkmate, dear… the tollhouses are rubbish… top Church thinkers have said so… they used the same sluzhebnik as we do today…

There’s no doubt in my mind that the people I named were better and more-grounded theologians than Serafim Rose and St Ioann Maksimovich (the first had NO academic training in theology and the latter was a holy man, but no scholar). Just because someone’s a saint doesn’t mean that all that they said and did is correct. Far from it. St Ioann Maksimovich was a “Blessed”… a Fool-in-Christ, not a theologian or even a competent bishop. Archbishop Antony Medvedev had to clean up the mess that he left as a bishop… but that doesn’t decrease St Ioann’s sanctity… it means that he wasn’t an administrator. As for the tollhouse myth… both Metropolitan Antony Khrapovitsky and Archbishop Antony Bartoshevich condemned it. Metropolitan Antony was one of St Ioann’s teachers and Archbishop Antony was a contemporary (a confrère called him “the ROCOR’s conscience”). Orthodox doctrine rests upon the bedrock of consensus amongst the Local Churches, upon consensus amongst recognised and competent theological experts and authorities (not jumped-up unschooled frauds like Rose), and upon a common and universal consensus amongst the body of believers, clergy, and hierarchy. Such a consensus doesn’t exist in re the tollhouses… I’d say that you can believe in them if you will, but that you can’t force them on anyone else as doctrine and dogma (of course, the converse is true as well).

Be careful with konvertsy groups that use the names of saints to cover their lies and fabrications. Have a care with much of the postings on Orthodoxy on the net… a great deal isn’t true, sad to say…



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