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Thursday, 8 December 2016

8 December 2016. Pravoslavie FUCKS UP ROYALLY… AGAIN! Bad Translation from the Platina Nutters, Yet Again

01 Clown behind the wheel

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Shevkunov strikes again! That is, he hands over translation of material to dumbass rightwing Amerikantsy converts, with predictable results (he likes sending stuff to the Platina nutters… the Rose crowd or to rightwing bozos like Jesse Dominick). His handling of HH’s comments on same-sex marriage and homosexual orientation were interesting… in the sense that Chinese people mean when they wish you, “May you live in interesting times”. First, we have the Russian original posted on patriarchia.ru. Next, is my translation… the Pravoslavie abortion is last. Note the howler in the name of the Parisian archbishop. That’s a proof of ignorance and laziness… two things seen in abundance amongst konvertsy… read on, kids…

BMD

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Russian original

Ваше Святейшество, мы видели, насколько болезненна для многих французов тема легализации однополых браков. Были массовые протесты. Касались ли Вы этой темы в ходе своего визита?

Да, мы коснулись этой темы во время беседы с архиепископом Парижским кардиналом Андре Вен-Труа. Всем хорошо известна роль Католической Церкви, которая категорически выступала против легализации однополых браков. И миллионная демонстрация французов, в основном, католиков, была ясным свидетельством несогласия значительной части населения с тем, что произошло.

Нужно сказать, что ничего не меняется в позиции Церкви, и измениться не может, потому что это против христианской морали. Еще раз хочу сказать, что мы никого не осуждаем – ни католики, ни православные. Мы не требуем некоего ужесточения в отношении людей, у которых есть какая-то особенность в сексуальной ориентации. Но мы категорически против уравнивания этих взаимоотношений с браком, который определен Богом и в результате которого рождаются дети, продолжается жизнь человеческого рода. То, что входит в Божий замысел, не может корректироваться никакими политическими доктринами и никакой политической практикой. На этом основывается позиция Церкви.

http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/4706946.html

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My translation

Your Holiness, we’ve seen how gay marriage is a painful topic for many French people. There were mass protests. Did you touch upon this subject during your visit?

Yes, we touched on the topic during a conversation with André Cardinal Vingt-Trois, the Archbishop of Paris. The role of the Catholic Church is well-known in this; it strongly opposes legalising same-sex marriage. The demonstrations involving millions of French people, mostly Catholic believers, were a clear sign of that; they showed that [Catholics] disagreed with the majority opinion [in France]. I must say that nothing has changed in the Church’s position; it can’t change, as [any change would be] against Christian morality. Once again, I want to say that we never condemn anyone… [“we” meaning] both Catholics and Orthodox. We don’t ask that there be restrictions against people of a different sexual orientation. However, we categorically oppose any changes equating such relationships with marriage, which is Divinely Ordained, within which children are born, so that the life of the human race continues. That is part of God’s plan. We can’t modify that with political measures or political ideologies. That’s the basis of the Church’s position.

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6 December 2016 Pravoslavie.ru article

Patriarch Kirill of Moscow and all the Russias has noted that while the Orthodox Church has strict traditional stances on marriage and family matters, it doesn’t condemn people, who are always called in love to repentance. In Paris to consecrate the new Trinity Cathedral and spiritual centre, His Holiness also met with the Catholic archbishop of Paris, Cardinal Andrew-Ben-Tura in which the theme of sexual orientation was raised. Summarising the Church’s stance, at a press conference the Patriarch stated:

I must say that nothing changes in the Church’s position, and can’t change, because it’s against Christian morality. I want to say again that we don’t judge anyone… neither Catholics nor Orthodox. We don’t require a hard line towards people of a peculiar sexual orientation. But we categorically oppose the equating of such relationships with marriage, which was defined by God and results in children being born and the continuing of the human race. What is included in God’s design can’t be corrected by any political doctrine or practise. On this is built the position of the Church.

http://www.pravoslavie.ru/english/99221.htm

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The rubber hits the road with какая-то особенность в сексуальной ориентации. Literally, it’d be some feature of sexual orientation. That jangles in English, doesn’t it? OK, how do we “English” this in a way both correct and pleasing (not so easy, as my experience tells me)? What’s the primary word here? I’d say that it’s особенность. It depends on the context, but it mostly gets “Englished” as feature or particularity. Other possible choices are quality, factor, or trait. It’s clear to me that some konvertsy brat chose peculiar as it fit their ignorant Yahoo rightwing opinions. HH was being very careful not to be judgemental, so it’s clear that’s not what he meant. Indeed, the choice of such an unusual idiom (usually, Russian uses non-traditional sexual orientation to indicate homosexuality) proves that he bent over backwards in his effort not to offend anyone. To carry over this into English, I chose people of a different sexual orientation. It has the same flavour of vagueness and nonspecificity found in the original. The “translation” on Pravoslavie destroyed that… peculiar turned HH’s carefulness and wish not to offend anyone into a mindless Yahoo rant. That’s unforgivable. I believe that we’ve ordained far too many ex-Evangelicals… things such as this prove that they’re not “of us”. I’d say that the bishops would do well to defrock most former-Evangelicals. They’re not of us, never can be, and they distort what the Church truly says. Shall we have the courage to do it, though?

BMD

Thursday, 5 September 2013

American Catholic Bishops Oppose Strike on Syria

00 Bomb in Damascus. 05.12

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On Thursday, according to American media sources, the US Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) sent a letter to US President Barack Obama, in which they called upon him not to conduct a military operation in Syria. The letter said that the US government should “work urgently and tirelessly” with other countries to put an end to the Syrian conflict. The bishops condemned the use of chemical weapons in Syria, but at the same time pointed up that Pope Francisco Bergoglio and Middle Eastern Christian leaders urged the international community to avoid military action. The USCCB letter noted, “They’ve made ​​it clear that military intervention would be counter-productive, it’d exacerbate an already-dangerous situation, and it’d have negative consequences”.

5 September 2013

Interfax-Religion

http://www.interfax-religion.ru/?act=news&div=52551

Editor’s Note:

John Boehner screams that he’s a down n’ dirty Catholic. Well, his bishops have made it clear that his warmongering stance on Syria is evil and beyond the pale. Is he going to repent and change his tune, or, is he going to persist on the hellbound trail? Only time will tell us… Mr Boehner’s past doesn’t give one grounds for optimism, does it? After all, he’s one of the best-paid prostitutes for the insurance lobby…

Oh, one last thing… is the USCCB going to pull the sacraments from Mr Boehner for his warmongering and opposition to single-payer healthcare in obstinate and stubborn defiance of many Vatican declarations on these topics? It’s only fair (especially, since Mr Boehner made noises about “pro-abortion” politicians… the shoe does pinch when it’s on your foot, doesn’t it, Mr Boehner?).

BMD

Friday, 29 March 2013

Pope Francisco Washed the Feet of Prisoners on Catholic Holy Thursday, Including Two Young Women and Two Muslims

Last Supper. old Russian.

Last Supper

Unknown Artist

15th-16th century?

Old Russian

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Last night, Italian media reported that Pope Francisco Bergoglio performed the Holy Thursday ritual of the washing of the feet by washing the feet of prisoners at the Roman juvenile prison Casal del Marmo. He performed the rite inside the prison walls, where he washed the feet of 12 prisoners, including two girls. The prison chaplain, Fr Gaetano Greco, said, “In Buenos Aires, when he was a Cardinal, he allowed girls to participate in the ritual. We managed to persuade the Vatican to allow a female presence now that Bergoglio’s the pope”. Besides all that, the pontiff washed the feet of two Muslims. The rite of foot washing takes place in Christian churches on Holy Thursday, in memory of how Jesus washed the feet of His 12 Apostles at the Last Supper.

29 March 2013

Interfax-Religion

http://interfax-religion.ru/?act=news&div=50603

Wednesday, 27 March 2013

Pope Francisco Refuses to Live in Spacious Papal Apartment

00 Pope Francisco Bergoglio. 16.03.13

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On Tuesday, citing his spokesman Fr Federico Lombardi, the BBC reported that Pope Francisco Bergoglio opted to stay at a modest two-room residence instead of moving to the grand papal apartment on the top floor of the Vatican‘s Apostolic Palace. Pope Francisco decided to stay in the Domus Sanctæ Marthæ hotel-style residence inside Vatican City, where he lived with other cardinals during the conclave that saw him elected earlier this month. The BBC quoted Lombardi as saying, “This morning, he let his fellow cardinals know that he’d keep living with them for a certain period of time”. Lombardi explained the pope’s decision as a desire for “a simple life” and said that Pope Francisco would live there for “a certain period of time”. In refusing to move to the palatial penthouse apartment with more than a dozen rooms, staff quarters, and a large terrace, Pope Francisco broke an over-century-old tradition. On March 13, a conclave of cardinals elected Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio of Buenos Aires the 266th Pope of Rome, becoming the first Latin American to lead the Catholic Church.

27 March 2013

RIA-Novosti

http://en.rian.ru/art_living/20130327/180272786/Pope-Francis-Refuses-to-Live-in-Spacious-Papal-Apartment.html

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