Voices from Russia

Wednesday, 5 February 2014

First Media Outlet Fined for “Gay Propaganda” in Russia

gay parade in st petersburg

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Editor’s Note:

This is the FIRST case against a media outlet since the law came into effect last June. I seem to notice a disconnect between reality and all the brouhaha in the West. This is what’s real, kids… the other’s bullshit. Aren’t you ashamed to have listened to CNN and Fox? You KNOW that they don’t tell the whole truth… they do their best to satisfy their oligarch paymasters, not you, after all. Silly wabbits…

BMD

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On Thursday, local news website Amurburg.ru reported that, for the first time, the Prokuratura opened a case against the media under the anti-gay propaganda legislation introduced in Russia last year; a newspaper editor who reported about a school teacher allegedly fired because he was gay received a fine. The court fined Aleksandr Suturin, editor-in-chief of Molodoi Dalnevostochnik (Young Far Easterner) in the Russian Far East, 50,000 roubles (1,430 USD. 1,590 CAD. 1,600 AUD. 1,060 Euros. 880 UK Pounds). Suturin blamed the verdict on a “shadow morality police” and “brown plague”, saying that he’d appeal the decision. Molodoi Dalnevostochnik, the oldest publication in the Khabarovsk region, came under fire because its website has a label warning that only people above the age of 16 should visit its website. A law passed in June prohibited “promotion of nontraditional sexual relations among minors”. The age of majority in Russia is 18.

The story in questioned, entitled “A History About Gay-ography”, dated back to September. It detailed the claims of a local geography teacher and gay rights activist who said that he had pressure to quit his job at school and Neo-Nazis assaulted him because of his sexuality. Suturin denied in court that the report constituted “propaganda” of gay relationships. The law against “gay propaganda” provoked a backlash in the West and prompted calls to boycott the Sochi Olympics taking place next month. The law prohibits informing underage children about the “attractiveness of nontraditional sexual relationships” and giving them “distorted ideas about social equality of traditional and nontraditional sexual relationships”. However, President Putin repeatedly said in public that the law doesn’t amount to discrimination of LGBTs.

30 January 2014

RIA-Novosti

http://en.ria.ru/russia/20140130/187051137/First-Media-Outlet-Fined-for-Gay-Propaganda-in-Russia.html

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Saturday, 1 February 2014

Russian Anti-Gay Law isn’t Draconian: American Response is Snowden Payback

00 Buzzfeed Infographic. The Anti-Gay World. 01.02.14

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Apparently, the USA doesn’t care about dozens of anti-gay nations, only Russia… after Snowden went there, and where gay sex has been legal since 1993. The No Agenda podcast with Adam Curry and John C Dvorak singlehandedly broke the story that American propaganda about supposedly horrendous Russian anti-gay law is bullshit. The legislation is not draconian. In some ways, Russia is more progressive than the USA on gays. The faux outrage only started after Snowden went to Russia. It’s about political payback, not justice for LGBTs.

An astonishing 129-page White Paper (Russian Federation Anti-Gay Laws: An Analysis and Deconstruction) looks at the so-called anti-gay Russian legislation (as the American media labels it). No Agenda debunked it, so, the White Paper author, Brian Heiss, researched the topic. He produced a thorough report, leading to a further discrediting of the thesis. The entire anti-gay and anti-Putin propaganda stems solely from the US government; it’s payback for the embarrassing fact that Snowden uses Russia as a sanctuary from the American government. This is a tremendous humiliation to the US State Department. Creating this false narrative about anti-gay Russian sentiment is part of a seemingly never-ending attack on Russia and its Olympics. Their goal is twofold:

  • We must punish Russia for its “disobedience” (for not handing over Snowden)
  • We need to humiliate Putin (for not handing over Snowden and for cocking a public snook at the USA)

Heiss is gay and works promoting diversity, he initially started his research to prove Curry and Dvorak wrong, then, discovered they were quite correct. You should know that Curry’s daughter is lesbian, and he, his wife, his daughter, and her girlfriend were on a float in the recent Amsterdam Gay Pride Parade. He’s no bigot (and whilst he likes to play the fool, he’s anything but). Heiss said, “The fact that both Adam and John are true supporters/allies of LGBTs made it impossible to dismiss their analysis superficially; so, that Sunday afternoon with great confidence, I became a man on a mission… to completely disprove their analysis. This white paper is the product of that mission. I invite you to read this paper and join me on this journey; a journey which included many twists and turns, a range of emotions and enlightenment, all of which I experienced and have tried to represent in my writing”.

Excerpts from the White Paper:

  • The law never mentions or uses the word gay, lesbian, homosexual, or any other LGBT identifier
  • The law focuses on children; its title is “On Protections of Minors from Propaganda of Non-Traditional Sexual Relations”. The messaging and strategy to bring the ban on propaganda from the law of several regions to national laws is part of a larger family values push, based on the successful anti-same sex marriage push in the USA
  • Statistically, you’re far more likely to be the victim of an anti-LGBT hate crime in the USA than in Russia
  • In Russia, your boss can’t fire you from your job for being an LGBT person, in the USA, they can
  • Since 1993, gay sex is legal in Russia; in 12 US states, gay sex is a crime
  • US President Obama said, “I have no patience for countries that try to treat gays or lesbians or transgender persons in ways that intimidate them or are harmful to them”. His policies prove he has nothing but patience

The law itself is nothing like the hysteria we hear in this country. The text of the law bans adults from initiating contact with minors/children who don’t self-identify as LGBT for the express purpose of encouraging the minor/child to explore non-traditional sexual relationships where there wasn’t interest before. There’s nothing in the legislation that prevents a minor/child who doesn’t openly identify as LGBT to seek resources on their own as they come to terms with their sexuality during the difficult period of adolescence (any of us who identify as LGBT experienced that). In fact, nothing in the legislation prevents LGBT youth resources to give services to minors who seek such services themselves. Although there’s much confusion over what the anti-“propaganda” law means, not even its strongest proponents argue that it amounts to criminalisation of homosexuality.

31 January 2014

Bob Morris

Politics in the Zeros

http://polizeros.com/2014/01/31/russian-anti-gay-law-isnt-draconian-us-response-snowden-payback/

Editor’s Note:

The Church in the motherland has a nuanced view of homosexual people… as does most of the Church here. Note the term I used… “homosexual people”, not “homosexuality”. HH said that the Church respects all human choices, INCLUDING THOSE OF SEXUAL ORIENTATION, but that it reserves the right to call sin a sin. That is, the Church accepts homosexual people, but it doesn’t bless homosexuality. The Church is against same-sex marriage, but some sources I consulted said that it could accept the state allowing a legal union between two people, but that the Church wouldn’t and couldn’t bless it. As one source wrote:

What the state does is one thing; what the Church does is another. We coöperate… sometimes, we agree; sometimes, not. It’s a vast improvement over 1937

I asked the same sources about Scott Lively, the loudmouthed rightie who claims to be a big influence on Putin and HH. One friend wrote:

He’s not been at the Danilovsky, Chisty Pereulok, or Peredelkino at all. No one’s seen him with Putin at all. His assertions are interesting, to say the least.

I urge all Orthodox Christians to take great care with this topic, especially online and in public. The konvertsy hold acrid views that aren’t in concord with real Church teachings, but they’ve terrorised many into silence. DO NOT ARGUE WITH THEM UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE. Oppose them, if you must (to defend this-or-that person)… otherwise, steer clear of these demented toddlers and their crackbrained assemblies and overheated online fora. We have a bishop or two who’ve sold out to them, and I wouldn’t want to see any of you hurt. Remember how Podmo and Rose (I reread Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future recently… Rose was as nutty as a fruitcake) sandbagged Lazar Puhalo (Puhalo wasn’t entirely in the right, but he did fall into the snare that they laid for him)… these people have no scruples… don’t give ’em a pretext to cosh you. The konvertsy are ploughing their own furrow; in the end, they’ll leave us, just as Brookline did, just as Podmoshensky did, just as the St Edward the Martyr lot in England did, just as the Osborne clique did, just as the Pashkovsky faction did. It’s what schismatics at heart do, kids. We’re not good enough for them. Yet, I reiterate, and I put it in ALL CAPS:

DO NOT ARGUE WITH THEM

That’s not what Christ’s Church is all about. Let the “warriors” like me fight them. However, note well that I don’t haunt the commboxes of their websites, nor do I post on some of their better-known fora. I’ve learnt that it does no good (and the plug-uglies complain to their pals in the higher clergy, and YOU get clobbered). I’d recommend that you do likewise. Oh, one last thing… Russia has allowed transsexual people to “change the sex” on their legal documents since 1997. I asked my sources on that one, and this reply sticks out:

The Church has nothing to say about the state’s requirements for passports and propiskas. We’ve had no need to rule on it, so, we haven’t. The Church doesn’t define something unless it’s in contention, and it isn’t. It doesn’t relate to eternal salvation, so, it’s on a far back burner.

Now, I call THAT good sense… please, don’t believe the rubbish about the Church calling for the criminalisation of homosexuality. There’s been nothing on patriarchia.ru or in the ZhMP… that is, there’s nothing official in the works, not now, not later, not any time at all. Keep focused, pass the jug… and DON’T ARGUE WITH MONOMANIACAL IDIOTS. Your life will be so much more peaceful…

BMD

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Thursday, 23 January 2014

Medvedev Sez “Threat to Gay People” in Russia is a Foreign Invention… Tells CNN to Bugger Off in a Nice Way

Medvedev with Kurjak

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In an interview broadcast late Thursday Prime Minister Dmitri Medvedev said that threats to the rights of gay people in Russia are an issue “invented” abroad. According to a transcript released by the Kremlin, Medvedev told CNN, “This situation causes commotion in other countries. I think it’s an invented problem”. A Russian law passed last year that forbids promoting non-traditional sexual relationships to children has met widespread condemnation, overshadowing the Winter Olympics, due to open in Sochi next month. US President Barack Obama won’t attend the Games, and his nomination of two gay former athletes to his country’s delegation is widely interpreted as a comment on the Russian law. Medvedev told CNN’s Christiane Amanpour, “I have the impression that the real situation inside the country and its interpretation abroad exist in two different universes”. He noted that very few people in Russia are actually concerned about the legislation. Russia sought to allay international concerns about the anti-gay propaganda law during the upcoming Olympics. Last week, President Vladimir Putin said that gay people should feel at ease in Sochi, but he urged them to “leave children in peace”. Medvedev said that he wasn’t aware of any criminal cases under the new law. Reportedly, since Putin signed the law in June 2013, courts found at least three gay activists guilty of promoting non-traditional relationships, ordering them to pay fines.

23 January 2014

RIA-Novosti

http://en.ria.ru/russia/20140123/186836816/Threats-to-Gay-Rights-in-Russia-an-Invented-Problem–Premier.html

Editor’s Note:

Make no mistake on it… Medvedev told Christiane Amanpour to “sod off” and “bugger off”… in a nice way, of course (she had to sit there and smile… that sure does warm my tootsies). That sort doesn’t like being utzed (and here)… in public, no less. Kudos to Dmitri Anatolyevich for shoving a rocket up her hubristic ass and lighting the fuse. It did me good to see this…

BMD

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Tuesday, 1 October 2013

Naryshkin Invites Euro MPs to Visit Moscow Gay Clubs

00 Moscow at night. 01.10.13

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Sergei Naryshkin, the Chairman of the RF Gosduma, speaking at a session of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe in Strasbourg, invited Euro MPs to visit Moscow gay clubs to see for themselves that Russia doesn’t infringe gay rights. He made the suggestion in answering a question concerning a recently-adopted law in Russia prohibiting dissemination of information about non-traditional sexual orientations to minors. He added that the law respected primary international law documents, including a UN Convention that allows every member county to take into consideration its own principles and traditions whilst providing children with comprehensive education.

He said, “I assure you, once again, that gay people in Russia have the same human rights as those with traditional sexual orientations. We have many successful people with non-traditional sexual orientations. They’re successful in business, art, and other fields. They have the right to spend their leisure time in a relaxed way, in accordance with their interests. There are many gay clubs in Moscow. I haven’t been to one, but people say these places have good and comfortable vibes (the audience applauded). I’m not trying to win applause, but if you want, please, come to Moscow. Unfortunately, I won’t be able to accompany you”. Besides that, Naryshkin pointed up that the European Court of Human Rights repeatedly stated that today’s world doesn’t have a uniform concept of what morality is. In his view, the Russian law takes into account national and cultural values, and, at the same time, fully respects gay rights.

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On Tuesday, during the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe in Strasbourg, Sergei Naryshkin, the Chairman of the RF Gosduma, said that Russia’s ban on promoting same-sex relations among youngsters has nothing to do with discrimination, because it doesn’t infringe the human rights of gays. He said that the ban’s intent is to protect family values; it doesn’t violate Russia’s international obligations, noting, “It complies with the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child and the European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms”. Last June, the RF Gosduma voted to make promotion of same-sex relationships amongst minors a criminal offence punishable by heavy fines and administrative arrest, or deportation, if foreign nationals are involved. Subsequently, many foreign politicians tried (but failed) to use the ban to persuade international athletes to boycott the 22nd Winter Olympics scheduled to be held in Sochi in February 2014.

1 October 2013

Lada Korotun

Voice of Russia World Service

http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2013_10_01/Naryshkin-invites-European-PMs-to-visit-Moscow-gay-clubs-2982/

http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2013_10_01/Gay-propaganda-ban-not-discrimination-Naryshkin-1828/

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