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Wednesday, 22 February 2017

22 February 2017. A Point to Ponder From HH

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Thursday, 8 December 2016

8 December 2016. Pravoslavie FUCKS UP ROYALLY… AGAIN! Bad Translation from the Platina Nutters, Yet Again

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Shevkunov strikes again! That is, he hands over translation of material to dumbass rightwing Amerikantsy converts, with predictable results (he likes sending stuff to the Platina nutters… the Rose crowd or to rightwing bozos like Jesse Dominick). His handling of HH’s comments on same-sex marriage and homosexual orientation were interesting… in the sense that Chinese people mean when they wish you, “May you live in interesting times”. First, we have the Russian original posted on patriarchia.ru. Next, is my translation… the Pravoslavie abortion is last. Note the howler in the name of the Parisian archbishop. That’s a proof of ignorance and laziness… two things seen in abundance amongst konvertsy… read on, kids…

BMD

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Russian original

Ваше Святейшество, мы видели, насколько болезненна для многих французов тема легализации однополых браков. Были массовые протесты. Касались ли Вы этой темы в ходе своего визита?

Да, мы коснулись этой темы во время беседы с архиепископом Парижским кардиналом Андре Вен-Труа. Всем хорошо известна роль Католической Церкви, которая категорически выступала против легализации однополых браков. И миллионная демонстрация французов, в основном, католиков, была ясным свидетельством несогласия значительной части населения с тем, что произошло.

Нужно сказать, что ничего не меняется в позиции Церкви, и измениться не может, потому что это против христианской морали. Еще раз хочу сказать, что мы никого не осуждаем – ни католики, ни православные. Мы не требуем некоего ужесточения в отношении людей, у которых есть какая-то особенность в сексуальной ориентации. Но мы категорически против уравнивания этих взаимоотношений с браком, который определен Богом и в результате которого рождаются дети, продолжается жизнь человеческого рода. То, что входит в Божий замысел, не может корректироваться никакими политическими доктринами и никакой политической практикой. На этом основывается позиция Церкви.

http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/4706946.html

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My translation

Your Holiness, we’ve seen how gay marriage is a painful topic for many French people. There were mass protests. Did you touch upon this subject during your visit?

Yes, we touched on the topic during a conversation with André Cardinal Vingt-Trois, the Archbishop of Paris. The role of the Catholic Church is well-known in this; it strongly opposes legalising same-sex marriage. The demonstrations involving millions of French people, mostly Catholic believers, were a clear sign of that; they showed that [Catholics] disagreed with the majority opinion [in France]. I must say that nothing has changed in the Church’s position; it can’t change, as [any change would be] against Christian morality. Once again, I want to say that we never condemn anyone… [“we” meaning] both Catholics and Orthodox. We don’t ask that there be restrictions against people of a different sexual orientation. However, we categorically oppose any changes equating such relationships with marriage, which is Divinely Ordained, within which children are born, so that the life of the human race continues. That is part of God’s plan. We can’t modify that with political measures or political ideologies. That’s the basis of the Church’s position.

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6 December 2016 Pravoslavie.ru article

Patriarch Kirill of Moscow and all the Russias has noted that while the Orthodox Church has strict traditional stances on marriage and family matters, it doesn’t condemn people, who are always called in love to repentance. In Paris to consecrate the new Trinity Cathedral and spiritual centre, His Holiness also met with the Catholic archbishop of Paris, Cardinal Andrew-Ben-Tura in which the theme of sexual orientation was raised. Summarising the Church’s stance, at a press conference the Patriarch stated:

I must say that nothing changes in the Church’s position, and can’t change, because it’s against Christian morality. I want to say again that we don’t judge anyone… neither Catholics nor Orthodox. We don’t require a hard line towards people of a peculiar sexual orientation. But we categorically oppose the equating of such relationships with marriage, which was defined by God and results in children being born and the continuing of the human race. What is included in God’s design can’t be corrected by any political doctrine or practise. On this is built the position of the Church.

http://www.pravoslavie.ru/english/99221.htm

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The rubber hits the road with какая-то особенность в сексуальной ориентации. Literally, it’d be some feature of sexual orientation. That jangles in English, doesn’t it? OK, how do we “English” this in a way both correct and pleasing (not so easy, as my experience tells me)? What’s the primary word here? I’d say that it’s особенность. It depends on the context, but it mostly gets “Englished” as feature or particularity. Other possible choices are quality, factor, or trait. It’s clear to me that some konvertsy brat chose peculiar as it fit their ignorant Yahoo rightwing opinions. HH was being very careful not to be judgemental, so it’s clear that’s not what he meant. Indeed, the choice of such an unusual idiom (usually, Russian uses non-traditional sexual orientation to indicate homosexuality) proves that he bent over backwards in his effort not to offend anyone. To carry over this into English, I chose people of a different sexual orientation. It has the same flavour of vagueness and nonspecificity found in the original. The “translation” on Pravoslavie destroyed that… peculiar turned HH’s carefulness and wish not to offend anyone into a mindless Yahoo rant. That’s unforgivable. I believe that we’ve ordained far too many ex-Evangelicals… things such as this prove that they’re not “of us”. I’d say that the bishops would do well to defrock most former-Evangelicals. They’re not of us, never can be, and they distort what the Church truly says. Shall we have the courage to do it, though?

BMD

Sunday, 4 December 2016

Alfeyev Expressed Condolences for Castro’s Death at the Cuban Embassy in Moscow

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An image of the Sunday of Orthodoxy from the Island of Freedom…

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On 30 November 2016, Metropolitan Ilarion Alfeyev of Volokolamsk, the Chairman of the MP Synodal Department for External Church Relations (OVTsS), visited the Embassy of the Republic of Cuba in Moscow. He met with the head of the diplomatic representation of Cuba in the Russian Federation Emilio Lozada Garcia, to express condolences for the death of the former Cuban leader, Fidel Castro Ruz. At the Embassy, Metropolitan Ilarion laid flowers before Castro’s portrait, saying to Ambassador Lozada:

I’d like, on behalf of His Holiness Kirill the Patriarch of Moscow and all the Russias and myself, to express my heartfelt condolences to you personally, to the Cuban government, and to all Cuban people in regards to the death of Comandante Fidel Castro. As Patriarch Kirill stated in his condolence message sent to the brother of the deceased, Chairman of the Council of State and Council of Ministers of Cuba Raul Castro Ruz, Comandante Fidel led Cuba for many years, he became a national symbol and a legend in our country. In Russia, there is probably no one who doesn’t know his name. The friendship between our two peoples, and the respect that the Russian people feel for the Cuban people, all this is largely due to the years when every Soviet citizen knew the name of Fidel Castro.

Metropolitan Ilarion pointed up that His Holiness Patriarch Kirill had a special feeling for Cuba, he repeatedly visited the island, and he met with Fidel Castro. Metropolitan Ilarion reiterated that the construction of a Russian Orthodox church-building in the centre of the Cuban capital took place due to the personal participation of Fidel Castro:

It wasn’t a chance occurrence that the meeting between the Patriarch of Moscow and all the Russias and the Pope of Rome took place in Havana. This was a deliberate decision of His Holiness Patriarch Kirill… the meeting should take place there, and not somewhere else. This visit of His Holiness gave him a last opportunity to see Comandante Fidel. I’d like to express my sympathy to all of you and I wish that the friendly feelings that the Russian people have for the Cuban people and Cuba would endure in Russia for many more years.

In turn, Ambassador Lozada thanked Metropolitan Ilarion for his kind words and gave assurances that the Cuban leadership would continue to strengthen friendly relations and to preserve the long-standing fruitful coöperation between the Russian Orthodox Church and the Government of Cuba. M Kh Palacio, the head of the Office of Public Relations and Protocol for the Ss Cyril and Methodius all-Church Postgraduate and Doctoral Institute, was also present at this meeting. Metropolitan Ilarion left a note in the Condolences Book for Fidel Castro at the Cuban Embassy:

On behalf of His Holiness Kirill, Patriarch of Moscow and all the Russias, I express heartfelt and sincere condolences to the Cuban government and to all Cuban people due to their heavy loss… on the death of Comandante Fidel Castro, who became a symbol of the struggle of the Cuban people for independence. For more than half-a-century, Comandante Fidel led Cuba. In Russia, everyone knows his name. The Russian Orthodox Church is grateful for his role in building a church dedicated to the Wonderworking Icon of the Mother of God of Kazan in Havana, due to which our compatriots in Cuba have a place to worship and to meet. I wish that those good feelings of friendship and mutual respect between the Cuban and Russian peoples, which the departed did much to foster and develop, should remain in our hearts.

On 25 November, Fidel Alejandro Castro Ruz died in the 91st year of his life. On 26 November, Cuba announced a nine-day mourning period. Fidel Castro’s funeral will be on 4 December in Santiago de Cuba.

30 November 2016

Patriarchia.ru

http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/4701157.html

Monday, 28 November 2016

28 November 2016. How Should Christians Respond to the Likes of Rod Dreher?

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I and a friend had a colloquy about Dreher. Basically, my attitude is, “If they don’t like our Church, why are they in it?” All of my friends in Russia are lefties… mostly, working-class commies who go to Church. The Party and Church made up way back in the 90s… Dreher won’t admit that, but only God can change Dreher’s mind… we can’t. He’s not alone, sadly enough. I’m surprised he hasn’t joined forces with that turd Matthew Heimbach. However, let him be. He’s lost in irrelevance, as far as Church matters go. As long as he posts no heresy, we should ignore him and his rants from now on. He shot his credibility during the brouhaha over Paffhausen’s “resignation”. If you want to talk about Paffso’s removal, if the Centre were behind him, he’d still be Metropolitan, and he isn’t. Note how they give Mollard things that they never gave Paffso.

There comes a time when you simply have to leave ranters be and let them maunder on. We all do have better things to do with our God-given time… if it comes down to our Holy Patriarch or Rod Dreher, there’s no contest. Leave him be… no good will come of any intervention or reply. It’s time to let this one go… it’s in God’s hands now.

BMD

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