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The last time that the Russians and Chinese faced off against the windy and hubristical Anglos, they won. Yes, kids, they did… in Korea, the Sov and Chinese war aim was to restore the status quo ante. In large measure, they did so. The VVS won air superiority over the skies of the DPRK and the Chinese infantryman proved himself superior to his American opponents (and certainly far better than the Yanks’ ROK collaborators). The MiGs couldn’t approach closer than 50 kilometres of the edge of the contact zone, which was behind the FEBA (Forward Edge of the Battle Area) and MLR (Main Line of Resistance)… that meant that the USAF had free rein in the combat zone, which was the only reason that the Yanks held back the Chinese infantry.
On the other hand, the Yanks failed in their war aim… to conquer the Korean peninsula and threaten the PRC. That failed miserably. The Yanks didn’t know what hit them when the Chinese infantry smashed their advance at the Chosin Reservoir. The Chinese proved themselves masters of infiltration and general infantry tactics, besides which, they were skilled night fighters, even though they had limited technical communications means. The Sov MiGs could open fire on USAF fighters before the Yanks could return fire as the MiGs had autocannon and the F-86s only had machine guns. By the way, after the war, the USAF abandoned machine guns, as the war had proven them worthless, if not dangerous to their pilots (by allowing the enemy “free space” to fire at them). That proves that the Mighty Yanks had learnt a lesson (at the price of blood shed… but that’s never fazed the Anglos, has it?).
In short, the USA doesn’t do well against peers… for that matter, it hasn’t done well against middle powers supported by major powers (as shown in Vietnam). It also hasn’t done well in insurgencies (Chinese Civil War, French Wars in Indochina and Algeria, Portuguese Colonial War in Africa, Afghanistan, Iraq), whether directly involved or as the major power backer of a proxy. That is, the USA is NOT a “hyperpower”… it is the dominant power in the Americas, to be sure, and its homeland is immune from invasion so long as the USN controls the sealanes. However, it isn’t the monopower that crackbrains like Wolfowitz maintain. Sadly, neoliberals (both “conservatives” and “liberals”) feed young American officers the pabulum that the USA can overwhelm any adversary… it’ll take much blood spilt to unlearn that “lesson”… actually, God willing, Russia and China will deter the American brats… such is my desire, any road…
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28 February 2016. This is What Happened the Last Time that the USA Faced Russia and China in War
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The Korean War of 1950-53 was NOT a stalemate. The USA didn’t achieve its war aims, but the USSR and the PRC did. The USA wanted to conquer all the Korean peninsula… the PRC and USSR wanted a return to the status quo ante. The PRC and USSR achieved their goal; the USA failed miserably, as the Chosin Reservoir showed to all comers (the marines were exceptionally brave men, but that doesn’t change the fact that the Chinese People’s Volunteers waxed their collective ass in a major way). The VVS MiGs weren’t allowed within 50 kilometres of the FEBA (Forward Edge of the Battle Area)… ergo, American aircraft could operate with impunity over the battlefield, but the VVS drove the B-29s out of the daylight skies and forced all other bomber missions to have fighter escort. Russian figures show that the MiGs won air superiority (but not air supremacy) over the skies of the DPRK… that means that the USAF could fly missions, but only at a cost.
The Repugs and Chilly Hilly spout vehement rhetoric about how they’re going to whip Russia and China. Well, the last time around, the Russians and Chinese achieved their goal… the USA didn’t. Boris and Ching Wang are ready for Round Two… the USA isn’t… it had best pull in its horns. If you needed a reason to Feel the Bern, this is a good one. Bernie wouldn’t needlessly goad Russia or China… the Repugs and Chilly Hilly would. Do you really want to vote for profit-glomming and bloodthirsty warmongers? Friends don’t let friends vote for Repugs or Chilly Hilly!
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