“We’re not slaves!” THIS is what the Revolution did… bear this in mind when you hear the woollier ROCOR elements spout their lies. They do have an interest in so doing… Uncle Sugar does pay so many of them…
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Editor’s Foreword:
The following is from a longer debate between a muddled member of Maria Vladimirovna’s household and a KPRF leader. The whole debate is here. However, this statement is where the rubber hits the road for 99.9 percent of all people. Lenin did NOT order the death of Tsar St Nikolai… neither did Sverdlov… nor did the all-Russian Central Executive Committee (VTsIK). It was a local action of the Ural Soviet. I’ll have more to say, afterwards.
BMD
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Now, the question arose as to if there is at least some indirect documentary evidence incriminating Lenin and Sverdlov in the planning of the execution of the former Tsar and his family. According to RF SKP investigator Solovyov, there’s none. Many refer to a doubtful journal entry by Trotsky. He supposedly wrote that he came from the front, learned of the death of the royal family, and asked Sverdlov, “Who decided that?” Sverdlov allegedly replied, “Ilich decided”. However, such a conversation couldn’t have happened at the time for the reason that in the minutes of the meeting at which Sverdlov announced the execution of the former king, Trotsky’s name appears among those present. So, how could he allegedly write about a conversation after arriving from the front with Sverdlov and Lenin? Trotsky had already started to play with the facts. There’s nothing surprising here, there’s nothing to refute…
After all, the situation in July 1918 was terrible. The war with Germany was lost, so, Lenin “resolved” the situation, trying to stop the entry of German troops into Moscow. It started with the signing of the Brest peace. The Left SRs in the government were terribly displeased. That led to a revolt of the Left SRs. Then, there was a provocation against Lenin and the Soviet government… the murder of Graf Mirbach. On top of that, the Soviet government was beset by foes on all fronts, and there was yet another provocation… the murder of the German princesses. Understand, this was extremely disadvantageous to Lenin and Sverdlov, to Soviet power in those conditions. It was yet another provocation in order to provoke a war with Germany, from which the Soviet government strongly denied Lenin’s involvement…
The RF SKP stated that neither Lenin nor the Soviet government were involved in the lawless execution of the royal family. Lenin and Sverdlov insisted on a trial, and no one raised the issue of murdering them. It’s only a contemporary opinion that they were guilty of a criminal offence. This act was against the will of the central government. It was an excess of the Civil War. This fact, the KPRF admits.
17 July 2013
KPRF Official Website
http://kprf.ru/history/date/120724.html
Editor’s Afterword:
Victor Potapov and his ilk are known quantities. Potapov was (or is) a paid propagandist of the US government, paid to undermine the Orthosphere. If “he who pays the piper determines the tune”, then, its clear that any statement on his part concerning Russian society, politics, or history reflects the Russophobic views of his paymasters. His statement on Stalin on the official ROCOR website must be taken in that spirit. Of course, he attacked Stalin… he’s the obedient lapdog of pro-Free Market forces, who’re the enemies of all decent people. All other similar statements by those of like-mind should be likewise given short shrift. Do note that they’re silent on the White Terror and on Russian collaboration with the Nazis (many of them do have family ties to KONR and SS traitors).
Sad, ain’t it? A bunch of opportunistic First Families has hijacked Christ’s Church, and they accept a “mess of pottage” from its foes. Nevertheless, it won’t last forever… it’ll only seem that way…
BMD
Voices from Russia 
22 July 2013. Did Lenin Order Tsar Nikolai’s Death?
Tags: All-Russian Central Executive Committee, Communist Party of the RF, Communists, KPRF, Lenin, Leon Trotsky, Nikolai II, political commentary, politics, RF SKP, right-wing, ROCOR, Russia, Russian, Russian history, Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia, Sverdlov, Trotsky, Tsar, Ural Soviet, Vladimir Lenin, VTsIK, Yakov Sverdlov, Yekaterinburg
“We’re not slaves!” THIS is what the Revolution did… bear this in mind when you hear the woollier ROCOR elements spout their lies. They do have an interest in so doing… Uncle Sugar does pay so many of them…
______________________________
Editor’s Foreword:
The following is from a longer debate between a muddled member of Maria Vladimirovna’s household and a KPRF leader. The whole debate is here. However, this statement is where the rubber hits the road for 99.9 percent of all people. Lenin did NOT order the death of Tsar St Nikolai… neither did Sverdlov… nor did the all-Russian Central Executive Committee (VTsIK). It was a local action of the Ural Soviet. I’ll have more to say, afterwards.
BMD
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Now, the question arose as to if there is at least some indirect documentary evidence incriminating Lenin and Sverdlov in the planning of the execution of the former Tsar and his family. According to RF SKP investigator Solovyov, there’s none. Many refer to a doubtful journal entry by Trotsky. He supposedly wrote that he came from the front, learned of the death of the royal family, and asked Sverdlov, “Who decided that?” Sverdlov allegedly replied, “Ilich decided”. However, such a conversation couldn’t have happened at the time for the reason that in the minutes of the meeting at which Sverdlov announced the execution of the former king, Trotsky’s name appears among those present. So, how could he allegedly write about a conversation after arriving from the front with Sverdlov and Lenin? Trotsky had already started to play with the facts. There’s nothing surprising here, there’s nothing to refute…
After all, the situation in July 1918 was terrible. The war with Germany was lost, so, Lenin “resolved” the situation, trying to stop the entry of German troops into Moscow. It started with the signing of the Brest peace. The Left SRs in the government were terribly displeased. That led to a revolt of the Left SRs. Then, there was a provocation against Lenin and the Soviet government… the murder of Graf Mirbach. On top of that, the Soviet government was beset by foes on all fronts, and there was yet another provocation… the murder of the German princesses. Understand, this was extremely disadvantageous to Lenin and Sverdlov, to Soviet power in those conditions. It was yet another provocation in order to provoke a war with Germany, from which the Soviet government strongly denied Lenin’s involvement…
The RF SKP stated that neither Lenin nor the Soviet government were involved in the lawless execution of the royal family. Lenin and Sverdlov insisted on a trial, and no one raised the issue of murdering them. It’s only a contemporary opinion that they were guilty of a criminal offence. This act was against the will of the central government. It was an excess of the Civil War. This fact, the KPRF admits.
17 July 2013
KPRF Official Website
http://kprf.ru/history/date/120724.html
Editor’s Afterword:
Victor Potapov and his ilk are known quantities. Potapov was (or is) a paid propagandist of the US government, paid to undermine the Orthosphere. If “he who pays the piper determines the tune”, then, its clear that any statement on his part concerning Russian society, politics, or history reflects the Russophobic views of his paymasters. His statement on Stalin on the official ROCOR website must be taken in that spirit. Of course, he attacked Stalin… he’s the obedient lapdog of pro-Free Market forces, who’re the enemies of all decent people. All other similar statements by those of like-mind should be likewise given short shrift. Do note that they’re silent on the White Terror and on Russian collaboration with the Nazis (many of them do have family ties to KONR and SS traitors).
Sad, ain’t it? A bunch of opportunistic First Families has hijacked Christ’s Church, and they accept a “mess of pottage” from its foes. Nevertheless, it won’t last forever… it’ll only seem that way…
BMD